In 2022 lawmakers in the U.S. state of California passed legislation which empowered the state medical board to discipline doctors in the state who “disseminate misinformation or disinformation” that contradicts the “contemporary scientific consensus” or is “contrary to the standard of care.” Proponents of the law argue that doctors should be punished for spreading misinformation and that there is clear consensus on certain issues such as that apples contain sugar, measles is caused by a virus, and Down syndrome is caused by a chromosomal abnormality. Opponents argue that the law limits freedom of speech and scientific “consensus” often changes within mere months.
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No
@9FZJ2MG7mos7MO
People who have genuine medical degrees get booted off of social media accounts all the time for using information backed up by scientific consensus. Everybody should be punished the same. People like to say what they would like to hear but that could harm the medical field and lead to misinformation.
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Yes, and the doctors should also lose their medical license
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Yes, this will decrease the amount of misinformation patients receive
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@ISIDEWITH6mos6MO
If a doctor's advice based on old scientific beliefs harms a patient, who should be held responsible?
@9H9GRS86mos6MO
The doctor because it is their responsibility to be up to date on science
@9H8L3TNIndependent6mos6MO
The doctor, the patient went in to seek help in the first place and if at the advice or doing of a doctors their condition was somehow made worse or they were harmed thats on the doctor as it was there responsibility to protect and care for the patient’s health.
@9H8L7K66mos6MO
The doctor unless there was some kind of user agreement/ terms of use or a policy that the patient had to agree on, or if citizens are more likely to view doctors as authority and that it’s too risky to not follow the advice as a result.
@9BJF3B41yr1Y
Yes, but only when the advice was proven to harm the patient
@ISIDEWITH6mos6MO
How might punishing doctors for their advice affect the patient-doctor trust relationship?
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@9BP88YF1yr1Y
No, only when the advice was proven to harm the patient and the doctors should be required to disclose that the advice contradicts contemporary scientific consensus.
@ISIDEWITH6mos6MO
How would you feel if a doctor gave you health advice that later turned out to be incorrect?
@9LZNMDX2wks2W
How would you feel if medical consensus lagged fifteen years behind actual data, and the doctor gave you advice based on the latest information, knowing that it will take years for scientific consensus to catch up?
No, only if the advice was proven to harm the patient. Doctors should be required to disclose that the advice contradicts scientific consensus.
@9FF9SFF8mos8MO
No, but doctors should be required to disclose that the advice contradicts contemporary scientific consensus, this must also be proven not to harm the patient
@9GFPK3Z7mos7MO
Yes, but only when the advice was proven to harm the patient, scientific consensus can change and patients should be allowed to try unconventional ideas
@99KHGST1yr1Y
If they go against consensus, they need to present their argument to the board and get their recommendation approved.
@99LGRGT1yr1Y
No, but patients should be made aware of the contemporary scientific consensus so that patients are well informed to make their own decisions.
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@9GWKTHP6mos6MO
They should not. Scientific consensus about transgenderism and such has been proven WRONG, and yet everyone acts like it is true.
@9LZNMDX2wks2W
No, it hasn't. In this particular issue, current science is rapidly evolving, learning is ongoing, and the traditional view that gender and sexuality is purely binary is what has been proven to be wrong. If you're not familiar with the actual evidence, and you haven't read the actual studies in the peer reviewed journals, then you don't know what's been proven right or wrong.
@VulcanMan6 6mos6MO
What is "transgenderism"..? There is no system or ideology or whatever you think this "-ism" is supposed to be. Some people are just trans, it's not a wild concept...
@9L74FFC2mos2MO
No, only if the advice was proven to harm the patient. Require doctors to disclose that their advice contradicts contemporary scientific consensus however.
@9KKJ3CD2mos2MO
Yes, but only if it is clear that significant harm was done to the patient because of that health advice
No, only when the advice was proven to harm the patient. The doctors should be required to disclose that the advice contradicts contemporary scientific consensus
@9JPMCF73mos3MO
No, only when the advice was proven to harm the patient, and scientific consensus change and patients should be allowed to try unconventional ideas.
@9CM45RL10mos10MO
No, only when the advice was proven to harm the patient because scientific consensus can quickly change and patients should be allowed to try unconventional ideas
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@9GD75RN7mos7MO
Yes, but only if the advice was proven to harm the patient, scientific consensus can change and patients should be allowed to try unconventional ideas
@9FVTKHQ7mos7MO
Yes, but only if the advice given has little or no evidence supporting it, and/or it harms the patient who took said advice.
@ISIDEWITH6mos6MO
No, everyone is human and can get things wrong, i think instead of punishing them we should create positions where someone's only job is to go behind them and make sure everything is correct.
@99KK92P1yr1Y
Yes because misinformation can spread as a result but it could also help discover new ideas or solutions.
@99KJ75K1yr1Y
Doctors shouldn't be permitted to give out information that contradicts contemporary scientific consensuses, but in the event that a patient is in severe pain or suffering and the doctor can provide a quick fix in an "unorthodox way", as long as the doctor can still provide a long term solution; I don't see an issue with that.
@99KH77H1yr1Y
Sometimes, depending upon context and the degree of consensus.
@99KGK9P1yr1Y
Yes, but only if the advice presents a clear and present danger to the patient's health.
@99KWDRF1yr1Y
Only if the advice causes direct harm to a patient
@7YS3KJPIndependent1yr1Y
No, although they should have the power to speak out against doctors who promote misinformation, if the consensus on the issue is long-standing and unlikely to change; there have been a number of times wherein this type of consensus was questioned and the results were positive.
@99KQBMZ1yr1Y
If the advice works, it works. If it doesn't... oh well.
@99KPDXK1yr1Y
No, these contradictions allow us to view another perspective and possibly even a more effective one
@9CLC4ZP10mos10MO
Yes, in certain situations
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@9MD3WJW2 days2D
Yes, but only if the doctor does not disclose that the advice goes against scientific consensus, and that the scientific consensus is backed by significant research and trials. This issue should be a case-by-case basis, as scientific consensus can change.
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